Joe Rogan invited me back on his podcast to have a long-form conversation about guns in America in 2022. In this segment, we talk about how thin the line can be with legal self-defense while also breaking down gun laws & gun crime statistics.
Here’s a scenario we broke down explaining the thin line between justified and unjustified shootings.
A guy walks into a coffee shop, he says he’s robbing the place.
He hadn’t shot anyone yet, but he starts arguing with another person. And the other guy is supposed to be a new concealed carrier. The guy stands up. He’s like, What’s your problem? What is he doing? And he’s kind of angling towards his gun, but he’s not.
He hasn’t gone for it yet. Another guy has a gun to the guy who came in to rob the place, but he hasn’t pointed his gun at anyone. He’s hasn’t shot anyone.
So at that point, theoretically speaking, you could argue that’s just mutual combat.
So which one can you shoot? Who’s actually endangering who?
So I ended up shooting a guy who came to rob the place. The problem is I shot him in the back. But that was from the standpoint of when I decided to shoot.
So I dropped four or five rounds just naturally. So he turns to run.
Now, is that legal?
So in that particular case, once we broke it down, my shooting was justified from the cameras. He was also retreating, trying to run away. But it just goes to show you how thin that line is between justified and unjustified.
Another conversation we had was regarding gun violence and how the deaths are categorized.
If you think about it, the vast majority of the gun violence in this country is from the inner city, like overwhelmingly so. The numbers are crazy when people talk about gun violence in this country.
Let’s take a look at gun violence in this country, when you look at gun deaths, a gigantic percentage of them are suicides.
When we’re talking about gun violence, I mean, I am clearly not in favor of suicide. I want people to get help and and live happy lives.
Suicides deaths shouldn’t be included with the homicides because they’re different reasons for why they’re happening. And so a lot of the vast majority of the gun violence, the homicide aspect of it, is from the inner cities.
That’s where it’s coming from. It’s these kids, literally. When I say kids, I’m talking ages 17, 18, 19, 20, and 21 year olds. They’re shooting each other.
What I’m saying is it’s a totally different reason for why it’s happened. It’s not a gun issue. It’s a socioeconomic issue. Because if you take those same kids that look like me. I know a lot of black people, people of color who live in the suburbs of America and they’re not running around committing drive-bys in a BMW.
They’re not. So what’s the difference there? They have access to guns the same way these kids have access to guns and these kids have access to guns illegally in the inner city.
The difference is prolonged exposure to poverty, but nobody wants to have that conversation.
The reason they won’t have the conversation, because it is admittedly hard to deal with.
As important as the gun is when it comes to conceal carry, it’s not just about the gun it’s also about the training and making sure you’re prepared. That’s why I’m a USCCA member. It’s just an easy way to cover all my bases if I ever had to use my gun in self defense I could find myself in a very expensive legal case to prove that me using my gun was justified. The beautiful thing about a USCCA membership is that you don’t just get self defense insurance you also get access to their treasure trove of education and their training programs. So if you’re interested in learning more about USSCA, click the link here to learn more https://uscca.com/colionnoir
